Everyone and their mother has read a certain Christian Bale interview from yesterday where he talked about filming with Heath, a deleted scene with Joker and Scarecrow, Batman's gravely voice and how much he hated it, his willingness to do a Justice League movie, ideas for the Batman 3
villains, etc, but it's since been deleted from the comic book website that posted it, and Batman-on-Film says it's utter bullshit
One of the interesting bits from the fake interview:
Q: Okay, before we go on to that I want to get your thoughts on what it was like working with Heath Ledger and the impact of his performance.
Bale: There really isn't a single word to describe what it was like to work with Heath. What Heath brought to the set everyday was innovative and new and made working on the film almost like a journey. He'd show up and incorporate new things that he made up either on the spot or had in his pocket for some time. I'll never forget this but Heath actually delayed a day of the shoot for some hours because he was doing a scene that was incredibly out there that everyone on set was laughing hard for a long time. I was in one of the business suits that they custom made for me and I split the bottoms because I was constantly doubled over in pain from laughing so hard. It was a scene that was taken out but it involved Jonathan Crane going to the Joker for help and tries to trick him with the fear gas only for Heath to say "nope" and proceed to beat the tar out of Cillian (Murphy). I wish it stayed on but Chris and Lee Smith the editor didn't think it fit with the rest of the film. I know Heath got the attention he deserved for his performance but the moment I really felt happiness and satisfaction was when Heath got the oscar win for his performance and seeing his family accept the award it really set my worries that his legacy would be forgotten to rest you know?
While a lot of people perked up at the lovely bit about Heath's humour, the first thing that popped into my head after reading the paragraph was: "SO THE OLDDDD RUMOUR FROM BACK ON SET ABOUT SCARECROW MEETING THE JOKER WAS RIGHT?"
Meh, I knew it was too good to be true. :/ There were several instances where "Bale" didn't sound like him at all or used comic book speak ("bat and the cat" made me raise an eyebrow). I had hoped those blurry on set pics and fan reports that hinted at shared screentime between Cillian and Heath were on to something. This interview would have finally confirmed it that a scene was indeed shot, even though it never appeared in the the final version of the film (and I was waiting for it to pop up, too, when it premiered).
Interview or no, I've mentioned to some of my flisters before how badly it must have sucked to be in the same movie with the bloody JOKER and get no screentime with the man. Wouldn't it have been an even greater shame to have shot a scene with him and get it cut out in the end? LULZ, a shame indeed.
I'd feel bad for anyone, really, but Scarecrow is a special case because of the two characters' relationship in the comics. It's just a lost opportunity. The clown cracking mean-spirited jokes at Jonathan and, well, seeing the Doc as nothing more than an idiot and a dope in a stupid costume, I'm sure would have translated well on screen during that scene. COMEDY GOLD right down the drain, aw.
Gotta admit, though, Scarecrow doesn't have it so bad among other villains as the poor Riddler. NO ONE respects him. Ivy told Eddie out right the other bad guys, including her, pretty much laughed at him behind his back from the very beginning. They thought he was cowardly, ridiculous and embarrassing. In my eyes he was better off as a consulting detective not too long ago, someone "on the fence" (whether turning good was just a facade or not, you can toy around with that as a writer), a man who could solve cases even the Batman couldn't. It was exciting and my fave depiction of Eddie ever. Showing off the guy's smarts and cunning = MAJOR WIN in my book. He was always incredibly clever first and theatrical second.
If the Riddler is cast in the next film, I hope they incorporate that version of the character. If he's just some crazy guy in a flashing green suit, the general audience who's not familiar with him (or those who merely know about him from pop culture) will just call him "Joker lite" or "too much like Joker, always has been", while he's not like the clown at all. The Riddler HATES it when people say that. *laugh* And it irritates me, too.
(Not a big fan of Jim Lee but I liked his design for Eddie.)
I wish people would forget about Jim Carrey and I say that as a Carrey fan who saw most of his films. A Nolanverse Riddler acting like Carrey would be so out of character, it's hard to imagine a greater travesty. I think we can all agree on that. Carrey, bless him, went overboard. Admittedly, he was closest to the core of the character in his awkward Edward persona, though he overplayed it and crazied it up and made Riddler into a farce. But he touched on the character's awkwardness there that at least had some truth in it. Riddler's one of those Batman villains who used to be nerdy types of men before their life of crime. But not as socially awkward and inept as, say Freeze or the Penguin, which probably explains how charming he can be in his Riddler persona. He becomes a new person, or, rather, his true potential is revealed when he's free.
Well, in the end both Jon and Eddie don't get screentime with the Nolanverse Joker, sadly. Perhaps they can share it together in Batman 3
and make it rock and be BFFs and go "tralalala" into the sunset together. And I'll mourn the nonexistence of Joker/Scarecrow in TDK no more. *uses appropriate icon* Hands off that
particular scene, oh, Christopher Nolan, you. :D
Also, if a cast member of Inception
gets the role of the Riddler, I sincerely hope it's DiCaprio. He's been mentioned in Bat fan circles even before Inception
started shooting, way before people suddenly wanted JGL to land the part (mostly because of the hype over Inception
). JGL was on the "Joker replacements" list first.
New icon post coming soon and then I'm off to a much-needed vacation.